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Comments-Q & A 

From time to time we will publish answers to some of the most common questions we receive about our organization, about raptors, about the environment, or about anything else visitors, readers, and members might enquire about. We will also publish comments about REF with responses when appropriate.


April 5, 2008

I got my packet today including license plate voucher – thanks. I had no idea about your group’s advocacy positions on the environment, I just liked the color of the plates. However, now that I have seen some of your literature, I will most likely continue my membership since I take a similar position on the global climate change/global warming silliness. I am a scientist, and believe that global warming is the anti-science. This realization came to me around 1987 and has only gotten stronger. I no longer debate the theory with people because it is like debating one’s religion, or arguing over whether “you like milkshakes and I like hot fudge sundaes…so who is right?” Silly.

Rather, efforts should be directed at thwarting global warming-driven policy. I could care less if someone believes Al Gore. I just don’t want laws or policy to reflect this superstitious nonsense. So, dollars spent on “elucidation” or “public opinion” regarding global warming may be wasted. I am hoping groups like yours focus on lobbying, corporate alliances, supporting lawmakers who think likewise, and protecting public school curricula from this destructive pursuit.

B Fisch, MD

We copyrighted this back in 1998, when our instincts knew the reality of anthropogenic global warming was BS.  In 2008, the numerous proofs of global warming, and its causes, confirm our instincts- just read Unstoppable Global Warming-every 1,500 years by Singer & Avery if you are still drinking the cool aid that the Prophet Algore Ayatoldya is pouring into the public drinking fountain.  Otherwise, put this on your car’s window and watch people’s brains heat up. Rational people are waking up… this helps them on the way. Read what Bjorn Lomborg has to say in “Cool It”. BL is the author and economist that Algorian’s love to hate!

Our self-sticking vinyl (4″ x 5″) slogan is supported by real evidence from all over the globe.  Evidence, not consensus is what  real science is all about. $3 each: Order Here.


September 5, 2007

I am requesting a refund of my membership to the Raptor Education Foundation.  On August 30, 2007, I paid (…) for a one year membership and I am now returning all materials and premiums in undamaged condition.  I understand that you will retain $20 as an administrative processing fee.

I was disappointed to learn, upon reading the materials enclosed in this package, that the Raptor Education Foundation is a partisan organization espousing strong points of view on immigration and other controversial issues.  My hope had been to join an organization which limited its advocacy to the preservation of raptors and the education of citizens about the value of preserving these wonderful birds.

Thank you for your prompt attention to this matter.

Claude Pumilia: Colorado

Response: Thank you for your note and comments.  Your refund cheque (….) is enclosed herein.

As to your view about REF being a “partisan organization espousing strong points of view on immigration and other controversial issues,” I am in a quandary as to which political party you might be referring to.  Neither the Democrats or Republicans have taken a position on “illegal” immigration that makes any environmental, economic, or cultural sense.  By not enforcing existing border controls and laws, both parties have defaulted on their constitutional mandates to protect this country.  Since you did not specifically refer to “other controversial issues” I cannot respond to the rest of that statement.

By the way, the issue is “illegal” immigration, not as you incorrectly state in your note.  I am a legal immigrant, and support the legal immigration of all people into this country based on reasonable metrics that benefit this country’s national interests.

If you are against espousing strong points of view, then we are definitely not your cup of tea.  Only strong views, backed by good science and disseminated with clear and strong educational methods will ensure the future health of not only Colorado’s ecology, but that of the country and planet as well.  I am using the term “ecology” in its broadest sense. 

Raptor population dynamics and their health are totally dependent on all the interlocking parts of our ecosystem, and by not having strong convictions and espousing them, we would fall into the wishy-washy muddle of the politically correct.  If you have basic understanding of predatory dynamics, then you know that predators provide immunity for our ecosystem.  By logical extension you must realize that the wishy-washy muddle is destined to be converted to energy by those strong enough to act decisively.  I know that is a politically incorrect position for those in the wishy-washy group.

All of what I have referred to above is openly posted on various parts of our web site, and not just limited to any of our membership packages.

Again, many thanks for your comments and your strong point of view when it comes to supporting our mission.


August 11, 2007

I called your organization a few weeks ago about getting one of your programs at our summer school, but it was too short a notice, and you were already booked.  When I asked if you could recommend another raptor group for programs you said that you could not.  I did find a couple of other groups with raptors so I’m wondering why you did not tell me about them?

Samantha Jacks: Colorado

Response: We do not suggest or recommend other groups with raptors as it is our policy to only offer an option for a client that is as good as what we offer or better.  Frankly, after 27 years of being the first to offer such programs, and evolving and improving them all this time we have not found any programs that measure up to that standard. What we have seen of the other programs is very disappointing when you evaluate them based on numerous educational and scientific standards.  One of the most detrimental principles violated by virtually all raptor or animal groups is the anthropomorphic contexts in which they present the animals.  Cute names  for birds are endearing but they violate a basic principle when educating young people about wildlife, and  this promotes the Disneyfication of the natural world.  That’s not part of our mission.

We have also had numerous people come from these organizations to join our mission as volunteers, and what we discover about their skill set during our Docent Training Program is very disappointing as they get virtually no organized training at all.


May 1, 2007:

My name is Pepper Black, and I live at the entrance of Wildcat Canyon State Park, with seventy miles of open space five minutes walk from my house. I know that there are owls living around me, I don’t know what kind, but I hear their “hoots”, so lovely at nightfall.  I am interested in rodent control, and also in the great privilege of observing, or at least hearing the owls on my property.

I see plans for barn owl “boxes” online, and advice on putting them on an at least 18 foot pole.

Do they mate for life? Would it be better to have two habitats then? If so, how close together?

I understand owls are illegal as pets, thank goodness. Is there a “supervised” way I can obtain two owls and release them here in hopes that they will choose my property and the boxes I will build?   I will be shocked if there is a way, so therefore, how do I attract wild owls? There is one large tree in my yard, otherwise, the owls close to me are in a eucalyptus forest five minutes walk.
thank you ,
Pepper Black:California

Response: There is no way to realistically answer your questions without a census of the raptors (nocturnal) in your area.  Without that information nothing much can be proposed.  There is no supervised/legal manner in which you can obtain owls.  You would have to have state support.  I do not know whether CA has a barn owl reintroduction program, but if they do that would be your only option.  This assumes the area has a territory which can support an increase in the population.  Again, none of this is ever initiated without a thorough understanding of the owl dynamics of your area. By the way, barn owls do not hoot, so you are not hearing barn owls.  Attracting wild owls is only possible if they have a sufficient amount of prey in the area.  If there is a sufficient prey population, then the owls are probably all ready there, but there are numerous species that inhabit any given ecosystem, based on the size of the area, and the prey density and type.

We copyrighted this back in 1998, when our instincts knew the reality of anthropogenic global warming was BS.  In 2008, the numerous proofs of global warming, and its causes, confirm our instincts- just read Unstoppable Global Warming-every 1,500 years by Singer & Avery if you are still drinking the cool aid that the Prophet Algore Ayatoldya is pouring into the public drinking fountain.  Otherwise, put this on your car’s window and watch people’s brains heat up. Rational people are waking up… this helps them on the way. Read what Bjorn Lomborg has to say in “Cool It”. BL is the author and economist that Algorian’s love to hate!

Our self-sticking vinyl (4″ x 5″) slogan is supported by real evidence from all over the globe.  Evidence, not consensus is what  real science is all about. $3 each: Order Here.


April 30, 2007:

I was discouraged to receive climate change and other propaganda in with the materials you sent with my membership packet. I thought you were the Raptor Education Foundation, not the Anti-Climate Change Foundation. This tactic of soliciting your opinion on climate change with my membership packet prompts me to seriously reconsider any support for your organization. Climate Change and Global Warming have far too many intricacies and variables to judge it as false. Regardless of the truth in the science of climate change, the impact of human activity on the environment cannot be denied.  Any measures to reduce our impact on this earth and its resources should be applauded, not degraded.

I respectfully request that you cease including information in your membership packets that does not have merit in educating about Raptors.

Sincerely,
Tanya L Huebner

Response:

Thanks for your note today. I partially agree with your line about “Any measures to reduce our impact on this earth and its resources should be applauded, not degraded, but only to the point that it is scientifically defensible and economically feasible, otherwise it puts humanity in the same quandary  it is facing with the global warming issues of the day.  Good raptor conservation is contingent on good science.  The latter is the same whether it is related to raptors, astronomy, or global warming.  Unfortunately the newest research is showing us that all the global warming models are based on very bad science, and the hype surrounding the very popular movie creates lots of other problems for serious research.  We have created a special page for the global warming issue, because of the many problems created for good raptor conservation issues.  Link to www.usaref.org//globalwarming/  where you will be able to earn money if you can prove our postings wrong, plus there is a full 75 minute documentary link countering all the rubbish put forth by the ex VP’s Oscar rated fiction.  But, if you really want the hard science with all the citations, then I would suggest you invest in the new book:  Unstoppable Global Warming, every 1,500 years.  This reveals the lie of “consensus” and also wraps multiple scientific disciplines into one book which debunks all the partial evidence used by the anthropomorphic global warming crowd.  The book contains hard evidence on many fronts from all over the globe, and none of the evidence supports the anthropogenic model so much loved by a certain group of people.

When you have had time to digest that information, I would be pleased to entertain your comments and observations.  Until then, we shall pursue good science, credible education, and our mission using raptors to convey environmental education.  We do thank you for your support. 

Peter


April 15, 2007:

Thanks for providing some counterpoint to the environmental alarmism promoted by the “sky is falling” global warming cabal.  I visit your web site regularly and love the mix.

David :New York


April 12, 2007:

I’m new to the area and have just joined using your license plate membership program which is very cool.  Are you affiliated with any other raptor organization in Colorado and if I donate to them does it count to keeping my membership with REF?

Charlie: Morrison

Response: Thanks for joining REF.  We are not affiliated with any other raptor organization in Colorado, although several have sprung up copying our mission in one way or another.  Any donation made to the other groups stays with them.


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